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good conclusions. this certainly rings home to the reality we live in on the mission field where a less hurried lifestyle lends itself to digging deeper on often-times controversial topics. i have found that even if we speak the same language, many times we mean very different things.... utilizing the same vocabulary. my favorite question is: "and what exactly do you mean by that?" this is exponentially multiplied when living in a different culture and utilizing a second language.
We come to the public square as whole persons, just as we come as whole persons to every other human endeavor. Civility in discourse is in short supply. My concern is that there are already many voices telling me that I should not bring my voice to the public square since it is a "religious" voice. I would encourage all to participate, and to practice civility rather than to suggest that some should be excluded.
One of the best applications of your principles I've ever witnessed was at a dinner I hosted which included Phil Johnson and Steve Weinberg, two intelligent men whose worldviews couldn't be more dissimilar. Phil was relentlessly firm and gracious throughout. After the meal when I complimented him on how well he'd handled a difficult situation, he said something I'll always remember: "In a situation like this I try to remember that I want him to want to talk to me the next time he sees me."
Hey Denis. Love your thoughts. I'm going to use this when I teach this year. I teach AP Human Geography and we discuss world views in depth because of how they lead someone to make decisions. The buzz word is cosmogeny and I love saying it! It just rolls off the tongue...plus it makes me sound smart! It truly is amazing how students react sometimes when they are challenged to think about this cosmogeny. I sometimes hear audible responses like, "wow" or "really?" Fun stuff! Love to ya'll!
Pete: appreciate your thoughtful post.
Pam: I agree--refusing to assume we know what someone means is a good habit to develop.
Brian: sorry if I was not clear. I am not excluding anyone's voice, but arguing that Christians have a reason to hold themselves to a high standard.
Greg: good standard.
Scott: I'm glad the post will serve double duty.
Thanks, Denis. I'm so happy to commend this to friends, Christians and non-Christians. Your thoughts not only help me, as a follower of Jesus Christ, to better conduct myself in discourse with others, it also sets a path by which Christians might gain some lost credibility in the national conversation. What's more: if Christians actually took on this civil tone, it might demonstrate that we actually believe the Gospel has power to convince and change people. By not relying on our hot-air and the sheer volume of our rhetoric we might help people to see the power of God. I keep remembering the passage speaking of Jesus, "He will not cry out or raise His voice, Nor make His voice heard in the street. A bruised reed He will not break, and a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice". Isaiah 42.2-3
Thanks, Denis. I'm so happy to commend this to friends, Christians and non-Christians. Your thoughts not only help me, as a follower of Jesus Christ, to better conduct myself in discourse with others, it also sets a path by which Christians might gain some lost credibility in the national conversation. What's more: if Christians actually took on this civil tone, it might demonstrate that we actually believe the Gospel has power to convince and change people. By not relying on our hot-air and the sheer volume of our rhetoric we might help people to see the power of God. I keep remembering the passage speaking of Jesus, "He will not cry out or raise His voice, Nor make His voice heard in the street. A bruised reed He will not break, and a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish; He will faithfully bring forth justice". Isaiah 42.2-3
May I quote you in a talk I am giving to my students on Friday? This will serve so well.
TJ: Thanks for your kind words.
Sandra: Of course you may quote me--I am honored.
Anonymous: Yes, or worse, love of political ideology over people.
I appreciate that you've put these proposals in writing. It's so good to have this thumbnail awareness at the forefront of our minds when communicating with others. They are extremely helpful in pulling 'I/ME/MINE' out of the center of the conversation and promoting irenicism across the varied world views. This would allow a fragrance of Christ to be enjoyed rather than the stench of my own pet positions being flogged, (or the impression of it).
Thank you Denis.
The challenge is to use that civility to convince the clanging gongs that they are actually clanging. It is hard to reason with people who are screaming at you.
Thank you so much for this helpful post. This is helpful for Christians and non as well. The final concept is one I have long wished to articulate. I think it is well said, and it is clear to me that you are not excluding some Christians from the public arena. As I understand it, you are setting up some helpful parameters. I think it is appropriate to really invest time into a dialogue. I don't feel excluded when I realize I am not in a position to speak; I am compelled to dig deeper, so I will be able to contribute in a meaningful way. (On a good day that is.)
~Cassandra
Denis--
This is great! I was going to say this is obvious--but I guess that is the point--it's not, unfortunately.
By the way, I think your photo illustration in this post is perfect.
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