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Mat:
It's remarkable how much guilt can occur from legalistic standards. The freedom of grace is so sweet.
Thanks
Denis
Denis - Short answer: My entire experience in the AWANA program. Longer answer: When I was in the AWANA program at my parents' church, I constantly was treated more kindly than the other kids in the group. Why? I was one of the kids that could memorize anything. My best friend and I could finish the books in half the time it took anyone else to. As a result, we were the favored children. It was a status symbol for us that we had all these awards - pins, crowns, jewels, trophies, you name it. We saw ourselves as better than everyone else because we memorized so many verses. It's taken my years to get over this way of relating to the Scriptures. Rather than approaching them as a message of God's grace for humanity and, by implication, my need for that grace, I still sometimes relate to them as something I need to really, really know inside and out in order to be valuable in the church. I think getting involved in RUF and at my church in Lincoln has helped kill most of that toxic tendency in me, but I still struggle with it sometimes.
Hi Denis, I converted to Christ in 1970 out of atheism. It was in a Pentecostal church and tho they were very loving the trappings included 5 no-nos:
1-smoking
2-drinking
3-dancing
4-movies
5-cards
I was raised an east coast Catholic and those 5 things were all we ever did, it seemed. But my conversion was so radical that I bought all the rest as peculiar Protestant baggage. It occurredto me that perhaps this was why
I have an incredibly vivid memory of being in 5th grade at a Christian School. I was accused at lunch of talking after everyone was supposed to be quiet; a requirement before being dismissed for recess. In order to get to go to recess the teacher made me swear on the Bible (right hand and all) that I was not talking, as I had testified. I was 10 and just wanted to get to recess. I had no idea what I was doing. Later that year my mother died from cancer and I believed for many years that I caused it because I had swore on the Bible. I didn't even think that I had lied. It was the very act of swearing on the Bible that I believed made God unhappy with me. That was a difficult time. But
Praise God in Christ Jesus that we can enter the throne room of Grace because of the sacrifice of Love! It took many years before I felt truly welcome with God and even today I still struggle, but God is faithful and I trust in his goodness. Thanks Denis...great post. Gonna share it with my class tomorrow. We're discussin religion and many kids will resonate with this greatly. Blessings!
A good story about someone resisting legalism. When I was a campus minister we had a young man who occasionally attended but was also involved in a weekly Bible study that met in his dorm on Friday afternoons at 2:00. This young man lived in town and went home most week-ends to play the piano in his home church. This Bible study was sponsored by another Christian ministry on campus.
One week the staff member leading the Bible study came in and said that he was concerned about these young men's commitment to Christ and because of that he was moving the Bible study to 5:30 Saturday mornings. He asked for a show of hands for all who would be attending. It took a minute or so but after much "encouragement" all of the men in the Bible study said they would be there except the young man who sometimes came to our meetings.
The staff member asked him to stay afterwards so he could talk to him and the young man said "Yea but it will have to be quick because I am going home". After all of them had left the staff member confronted this young man with the words: "I'm not sure if you are really committed to Christ". The young man replied by saying "Oh, I'm committed to Christ, I'm just not committed to this Bible study. It was at a great time for me on Friday afternoon just before going home but there is no way I'm coming at 5:30 on Saturday morning". End of discussion
I don't know if this is a story of legalism or simply a story of mixing the gospel with pressures to conform to society. My junior year in high school, I quit the football team. I suppose I should add that this took place in a small town in Alabama, and every male whose heart beat and had two arms and two legs in working order was expected to play. One of the team's assistant coaches, who was also a member of my church, took me aside and asked me to reconsider, in light of how my Christian witness was going to be damaged by decision not to play football. Even then I thought it was one of the most outrageous statements I'd ever heard.
When I was a child, my family attended a church for a few years that had a Children's Church service that ran simultaneously with the adult service. I think it was probably for grades 1-4, so the children ranged in age from about six years to age nine or ten.
I had forgotten until I read your blog post about the method they used to keep order. When you arrived at CC, the leaders would pin a white heart to you indicating your behavior status. If you were caught whispering or talking or wiggling, your paper heart would have to be changed to a grey heart, and a second trespass would get your heart changed to a black paper heart. The heart had to remain pinned on until your parents picked you up.
I was always to frightened of getting a black heart to move around or whisper much, but I remember getting a grey heart a few times. Some children would get black hearts every week and leave the room crying when they would be picked up by parents. It didn't matter to the leaders whether you were sorry for your childish infraction or not. The grey or black heart stayed on.
After a while, I became absolutely terrified of church. I was a good kid who couldn't deal well with adult disapproval.
I remember thinking that to be accurate, the leaders should have pinned black hearts on themselves.
Jake, 5 Voices, Scott, Lee, Greg and Heather:
As your comments arrived, telling these stories, I was increasingly glad I had posted a blog on this topic.
I think that one of the worst aspects to legalism is the fact that so many Christians assume they are of little danger. They may go beyond biblical instruction, true, but the people involved mean well. They want purity, and see the myriad temptations in a decadent world, and so are merely trying to help. The legalism isn't meant to take the place of God's law, or be added to it--it's merely meant as a way to apply the law in a practical way.
All that is rationalization, of course.
Legalism, in all its forms, is dangerous to the soul. It is a foreign gospel, substituting man-made law for God's grace. It produces false guilt, which makes receiving forgiveness all the more difficult.
May we know, and show grace.
Thank you for your comments.
Denis
Subject: legalism stories
denis, i cannot for some reason add these stories to your blog. So here you are: a) i have been a member of churches that say Christians should not dance nor drink wine. b) my wife grew up in a church in which the women could not wear pants or make up or go to the movies. c) another student of mine was told he could not listen to secular music; in fact, this same student was told that Christians had a curfew - 6 pm. d) my college pastor wanted all students to bring their albums to a burning party. just a few of my 'favorite' stories. luke
I've been thinking of this blog all weekend. I just couldn't think of anything, though I know my past is littered with legalism. I also could not get the image of a crust castle out of my head.
I guess the thing that most stands out to me is the time(s) I destroyed my "worldly" music. Can I just say that some of the music I destroyed probably brought more pleasure to God than some of the "Christian" music peddled to believers? Whatever you do, do unto the glory of the Lord. I think that applies to music...just because your words are spiritual, does not make it good music, and just because the lyrics don't scream praise Jesus, doesn't mean it's worldly.
Cassandra:
Quite correct--music brings glory to God even if the music maker happens to deny the existence of God. That's one of the delicious ironies of the Christian perspective. There are lots of people who burned records and now wish them back, for good reason.
Thanks.
May I make a suggestion? The next time you eat bread, skip the crust, and offer it to him in gratitude that no crust house exists in heaven.
Denis
Denis,
I was reading your comments and thanks again so much for posting this. I have shared it with many people. But I think that I must ask for clarification on your comment about "meaning well." I can't say that I agree that pinning a black heart on a child is "meaning well" but rather seems very thoughtless and selfish. Meaning well to me brings the sense of seeing another's need and meeting it with a heart that breaks for their condition with benelovence and compassion. I do believe that they think that they are doing what's right but wonder how it might frustrate someone who was subjected to such a thing to hear that the people involved actually "meant well." Now living in the South and hearing phrases like, "good Christian" or "bless their heart" and "he means well" are simply passing phrases used to justify poor choices, character faults or covert selfishness in an attempt to avoid discussin the brokenness of the situation to any deeper level. Don't mean to critique the sense of what you were saying and I know that you were not making excuses for their actions. I have just really been struggling lately with the tension of knowing that these beliefs are so damaging to people and to what degree to call people out on it. Feel free to not keep this in the discussion as I digressed a bit from the topic. Love all that you do and felt a pang of chill when I saw that your daytime high temps were in the negatives!!!
Scott:
You make a very good point, and one that is very much to the point of this conversation. I'm happy to clarify what I mean--and I wouldn't want to be misunderstood about it, so thanks for bringing it up.
My meaning was limited: I can imagine legalisms being initially launched by people who mean well.
I grew up in a church tradition that is shot through with all sorts of legalism. My sense is that the people in that tradition really do have a deep desire to be holy as followers of God, and I can imagine that desire being the motivation (at least partially) for the formulation of ideas that were legalistic. That doesn't make it right, of course, nor any less deadly.
You are correct to question my choice of words, however, because Jesus' most scathing prose was directed at the legalists of his day. Legalism, regardless of what it is intended to accomplish denies, dismisses and undercuts grace. And that is a serious form of wickedness.
What I should have said is that even if legalists mean well, their legalism must always be resisted for what it is, an attack on the gospel. And since legalism tends to make people controlling, grim, and judgmental, legalists seldom mean well.
Thanks for commenting.
Denis
Denis,
Thanks for clarifying. You explained it so well! I couldn't agree more with you and given our exchange I'm wishing that we could meet for come coffee! We are dealing with some things here that speak to this post more than you know. I feel so blessed to have spent time with you and Margie! Although we haven't seen each other in quite a while we treasure our friendship. Love to you and your family during this Advent season!
Scott
Scott:
Thanks for your kind words--and a shared coffee would be a delight. Blessings.
Denis
There are some good examples of legalism listed here.
There has been an emphasis here against fundamentalism and some of it is certainly justified. I grew up in fairly fundamentalist circles in the 60’s and I do remember seeing the legalism that you rightly identify. However, I live in the South and in a highly concentrated Southern Baptist demographics and the problem that is much, much more prevalent is quite the opposite….namely antinomianism. I see many more Christians that feel no obligation to follow the precepts laid out in Scripture. From where I sit, evangelicalism has been largely co-opted by the culture at large and is virtually indistinguishable from it. I will add that much of this accommodation has occured under the auspices of "engaging the culture". Antithesis is dead. Counter-cultural Christianity?….a rare bird indeed.
Jeff:
Ah yes, the opposite problem.
Francis Schaeffer used to say that orthodox Christian belief and practice was like walking on a narrow path bordered on both sides by cliffs. Back away from one danger too far and you'll plunge into the opposite abyss.
Thanks for your counter-balancing comment.
A child runs from a bully who intends to hurt him. He runs to his little brother who tells him to hide in a certain place. When the bully arrives and asks which way the boy's brother went the child lies and points the bully away from where his brother is hiding.
A legalist would say the child lied and needed to ask God for forgiveness. The problem is that a legalist does not understand the freedom that is afforded "in Christ" or by the golden rule. Things that are usually thought of as sin are acceptable or justified when the motive is concern for the welfare of someone else.
This provides a critical clue to how to correctly understand the Bible about things that the writers of the Bible said that don't seem to make sense.
Seer:
Motivation is part of our experience and life, and certainly is important when we are thinking through ethical issues. We cannot, however, simply reduce ethics or morality to motivation, even a good one like being concerned for another's welfare.
Thanks for commenting,
Denis
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